Householder Adam and Eve 7 – 9/1972 – 1:22

(continued from last post)
If you smell something, don’t you tend to go into a reverie state? Something similar to sleep. That means you want to shut out everything and go into a state of sleep to really experience the depth of it. So when you’re thinking deeply, you’re having a form of union and you’re having a form of pleasurable sensation. So the ego gets its highest pleasurable sensation in a pseudo form of sleep, “nod,” like if all the senses are now starting to heighten themselves by closing in.
Question: That’s so interesting, I’ve experienced that kind of pleasure and I see now why…
Adano: But that pleasure… but it’s not something bad. Don’t go knocking it, it’s just because that’s the mechanics of it.
Question: We want to get rid of that, don’t we?
Adano: You want to understand it to use it differently. You don’t want to use your ego to gain pleasure through sensory suspension. You want the ego to gain joy by transcending sensory suspension. That’s what meditation becomes now. One is joy and one is pleasure. Sensory pleasure, the ego can go into it and quiver. Joy is that transcendency where there are no guilt complexes, where there are no sensations of self-deterioration.
— Adano Ley (Householder Adam and Eve 7 – 9/1972 – 1:22)